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1. Dearest Johnny,

   First off, I apologize that I can’t go into this more, but it is well past my bedtime, and work draws ever nearer. Plus, this weekend is packed, so further discussion might be delayed.

   You know how much I respect you and your opinions. However, I am pretty much diametrically opposed to many of your views you have expressed in the past couple of weeks.

   First off, although there are vastly more Democrats than Republicans voting against the “Terri” bill, the Dems were even split. I don’t even think, for once, this is so much of a “Blue” vs. “Red” debate.

   I’m also shocked, as a self avowed Libertarian that you can support the National, (and even somewhat State), governments going against STATED LAW. I don’t believe the judges, (BOTH THOSE AVOWED LIBERALS AND CONSERVATIVES), were being “activists” or some such, but just “checking” the unadulterated power plays of the various parties.

   Funny, how Jeb and G.w. have bent over backwards, and even violated state and federal laws to attempt to step in, but when they realized there was nothing left they could do beyond declaring an unjust martial law, and backed off, Terri’s family started to BASH THEM. Maybe they just wanted to wipe Terri’s butt with the Constitutions of both the U.S. and Florida.

   And for them to come out and say that Hospice was trying to kill her with Morphine?!?!?! They should be slapped from here to doomsday for even thinking that.

   If any of their fantasies were EVEN CLOSE TO TRUE, we never would have come close to this debate. They are a family that can’t deal with the fact that their daughter was gone 15 years ago.

   Oh, and it was hospice that asked the family to leave so they could assess Terri, and her brother darned near got arrested. Terri, apparently died in Michaels arms. Everyone has wondered where Michael was over the past couple of weeks, other than an occasional interview. It’s come out that he’s been in a room down the hall, and he was with Terri as much as he could when the family wasn’t around. He could have walked away years ago, with little or no debt, but stood up for his wife’s right to go on into God’s hands with some dignity.

   Sorry, Bro…just how I feel.

   Tom

   Comment by ManicNole | April 1, 2005

2. Tom,

   I respect your opinion, man…and that’s what this blog is about. People expressing their opinions, regardless of whether they agree with me or not. Steve has disagreed with me on a number of occasions, and that makes this blog more lively.

   I agree 100% that this was not a red-blue issue. Some Democrats were for restoring the feeding tube, and some Republicans were against it. I do maintain, though, that liberals (which, as we know, does not mean all Democrats) were ready for Terri to die for the express intent of scoring a political blow against the Bushes. I’ve documented here how I could have come to that conclusion.

   As a Libertarian, I have been thoroughly disgusted with the level of judicial activism on the part of Judge Greer, as well as the federal government trying to inject itself into this one single case. After all, how many other people like Terri are across this country, yet didn’t have the same high profile as did Terri? I don’t see Congress getting involved with their cases…no cameras and stuff, I guess. It’s disgusting.

   Having said that, the federal government (much to my chagrin) does trump the state governments, including state courts. Article III of the Constitution gives Congress authority over all courts that it and it alone establishes. The Senate subpoena for Terri, while clearly a shameful political ploy, was still lawfully issued…and unlawfully ignored by Greer.

   And how could you blame the Schindlers for bashing the Bush brothers? They were desperate, and lashing out at those who couldn’t help them. I’m willing to give them a pass on lashing out at the Bushes, Congress, etc., whether called for or not.

   As far as “wiping Terri’s butt” with Constitutions, you may want to check out that online link to the petition to impeach Greer. You will see what Florida laws and state constitutional provisions were violated in his ruling. The fact that the US Supreme Court wouldn’t hear the case does not mean that the state judge didn’t violate state law or the state constitution. It only means that the USSC didn’t see a federal law or the US Constitution violated…or they lacked the political will to tackle this hot-button issue.

   Look, I am with you on a number of points you made. Terri was gone 15 years ago. The family probably behaved selfishly in saying she never would have wanted to die (because like I stateed before, if I’m in a vegetative state like her, I want to die…I’m getting it in a living will as we speak). And whether anyone likes it or not, Michael as her lawfully-observed “husband” (who since since shacked up with another woman and fostered two rugrats with her, all while legally married…probably explains his resentment at the Schindlers for not letting him move on any sooner) gets to make the final call.

   As for who made the Schindlers leave the hospice, while I concede that there are conflicting stories, I prefer to believe the priest over the attorney of Michael Schiavo. I’ve seen no statement or quotes from the hospice to the contrary.

   I’ve said from the beginning that this is a complex case, and that I was torn on my feelings. Reasonable people can reasonably disagree, as you and I do on a number of points. My main beefs are summarily as follows:

   (a) the rule of law is established by the legislature, not the judiciary, and the judiciary has actively circumvented established law (didn’t even rule it unconstitutional…they just ignored it);

   (b) terrorists, death row inmates, and household pets get to die with more humanely than Terri did…I mean, starving to death? Come on;

   (c) Michael Schiavo is a beast. In addition to making Terri’s family leave her side (thus not allowing them to see their little girl out of this world), he now is having her cremated (against the family’s religion) and is hiding the burial site from them! Come on…you can’t defend that, can you?

   This case provokes emotional reactions out of everyone. I’ve tried to temper my feelings with logic and reason, and I have done so…as have you. I cannot back down from my statement, though, that I fear for our country when we can let someone starve to death like that.

   Anyway, thanks for weighing in, Tom…and I’m sincere about that. You should know that your view is always welcome here. And please, take this for what is: just two friends who agree to disagree on most points. I’m cool with that.

   Comment by Jonathan | April 1, 2005

3. Evrything that needs to be said about the Terri Schiavo case has been said. I’m still upset and conserned whith the continued lack of respect for life that many in America have. I believe Life is all precious in all forms and is a gift from God. To distroy any life with disrespect is a sin. To end a human life (God’s greatet creation) is the perview of God only. This is just my feelings on that.

   As for Michael Schievo, he is one of the bigest, hartless dirt bags. His ordering of the Shindler’s out of the hospice room is hartless discusting. As a husband and a father, if anyone one tried to force me out of the room while my wife or child laid dying, it would take an armed police officer to do it as well.
   As for what is going to take place with the remains of Terri. I can’t believe Michael has shown so much crassness. This was an opertunity to heal the wounds between the two families, something I have a hard time believing,, Terri would not have wanted listening to all the people who knew her.

   Oh well it is done now. and I hope this does not act as a precident for the future mass killings of the disabled in the future. However I have a bad feeling about this.

   God Bless Terri Schiavo. May God have mercy on her soul, and may gods heavenly arms embrace her as she enters the gates of heaven. May the Lords all forgiving love find it’s way into the harts of Michael Schiavo and those who ordered Terri’s death. May God heal the wounds in the hearts of us all, and let us once again recognize wht makes the American people stong is our ability to agree to disagree and compromise when ever possible.

   Comment by Anonymous | April 2, 2005

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