NYT story: 0.02% of Iraqi and Afghanistan veterans kill back in America
Naturally, the NYT headline doesn’t read that way. If it did, who outside of the Kos kooks would consider it newsworthy? From the Weekly Standard:
IN A PAGE-ONE STORY published Sunday, January 13, 2008, “Across America, Deadly Echoes of Foreign Battles,” the New York Times reported on homicides by veterans of the ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Seven Times reporters contributed to the lengthy story, which was co-authored by Deborah Sontag and Lizette Alvarez.
The Times “found 121 cases in which veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan committed a killing in this country, or were charged with one, after their return from war.” All but one case involved male veterans. They speculated that their research “most likely uncovered only the minimum number of such cases, given that not all killings” were “reported publicly or in detail,” and because “it was often not possible to determine the deployment history of other service members arrested on homicide charges.”
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The Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) and other veterans’ advocacy groups are absolutely correct that not merely “many” but the vast majority of veterans not only remain completely law-abiding but go on to lead stable and productive personal, professional, and civic lives. Assuming 121 homicide cases in relation to 749,932 total discharges through 2007, 99.98 percent of all discharged Iraq and Afghanistan veterans have not committed or been charged with homicide.
And assuming 121 cases and 749,932 total discharges, the homicide offending rate for the discharged veterans would be 16.1 per 100,000. The U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) has demographic data aplenty on homicide offending rates. For instance, in 2005, for white males aged 18-24, the rate was about 20 per 100,000. The Times opined that 121 was the “minimum” number, even as it counted veterans charged but not convicted with veterans tried and found guilty. Doubling the number to 242 would double the rate to 32.2 per 100,000.
Such crude but contextualizing calculations aside, the right question to ask is whether the veterans, other things being equal (controlling for age, race, gender, education, income, prior criminal history, and other variables), offend at rates that are significantly different from otherwise comparable groups (including groups that have an extreme PTSD incidence). Without doing the relevant statistical (multiple-regression) analyses with all the requisite empirical data, it is impossible to say.
Borrowing on that line of reasoning, I am likely to go postal on someone, since I’ve been to Memphis. In 2005, Memphis had a population of 672,277 and had 153 murders. That comes out to roughly 22.76 murders per 100,000…higher than the 16.1 murder rate of the “wacko-vets come home” rate. I’m a ticking time bomb. So don’t p#ss me off!
Nope…no liberal media bias!
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LOL……my new troll thinks the media is part of a Reich Wing Conspiracy!
Comment by Jenn | January 15, 2008
She/he/whatever also thinks that Kookinich is brilliant for seeing a UFO!
Comment by crushliberalism | January 15, 2008
Yesterday she way even demanding socialism NOW! You should seriously go read her site. It is amusing.
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