Obama: Like hell you’ll be independent!
Displaying his socialist bent, the Obamessiah laid out his vision of an America where independence will not be tolerated. From Neal Boortz:
Barack Obama gave a speech yesterday where he laid out his housing plan. In his speech he actually said that he does not accept an American where Washington’s only message to working people is that “you’re on your own.”
Now what does this really mean? It means that when it comes to the nanny government, you never get pushed out of the nest. You never have to fly on your own. You never have to fend for yourself or look to your family and friends for help. Nope … not in an ObamaNation. An ObamaNation means that you have the privilege of being born into a wonderful womb to tomb, cradle to grave nanny state where you always have the government to depend on.
Translation: When the going gets rough, you always have a friendly caretaker government that will take money away from someone who has made better choices and worked harder than you, and give you that money to pave the way. How nice. …
This should come as no surprise, since the party has openly declared war on individualism for a number of decades now.
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It’s always heart warming when an aspiring presidential candidate has a vision to turn the country into a ghetto.
Comment by Kanaka Girl | May 28, 2008
Who’s fault is it that they bought a house and got a loan WITH BALLOONING INTEREST RATES. If they didnt want the ballooning interest rate they should have bought the house THEY COULD AFFORD, not one out of their reach. They were the ones who bought the BS of dont worry the value of the house will go up and up and when the interest rate rises the you sell for a big profit.
You know it seems the only people who are having trouble with mortgages are the people who thought they would get something for nothing and couldnt really afford the house to begin with.
Comment by WMD_Maker | May 28, 2008
the only people who are having trouble with mortgages are the people who thought they would get something for nothing and couldnt really afford the house to begin with.
EXACTLY!
Comment by Kanaka Girl | May 28, 2008
and this is the point where my stance as a moderate collapses, because quite honestly, when I hear talk like from this blogger and the comments that follow, a very clear image of what the liberals are thinking forms in my mind.
A lot of people have a problem with any kind of system that would take money from the smart and successful and give it to the dumb and poor. and so I would split america into two groups in this case.
group one are the people who understand the value of helping our fellow men, even if his problems have been caused by his own stupidity. they give money to the poor (indirectly through taxes) because they are altruists and thats what altruists do.
group two are the selfish individuals who believe that just because they are smart and they know not to trust people they are doing business with, that they should not have to help the stupid and the poor. that these people are better off being homeless (nevermind their children who haven’t done anything to deserve their fate)
to group two I would encourage you to look at welfare and all of the other entitlment programs that you rail against, as something of an “Evil Tax”. as in, a tax YOU pay for being evil, heartless, uncaring bastards.
lastly, in response to that catch phrase “why think when you can feel?”, I think I’ll think AND feel, thank you.
Comment by andrew | May 28, 2008
Since when did the government become an insurance agency? If anything goes wrong, we’ll cover you! No matter what you sign on the dotted line for, we’ll back you up if you lose!!!
Crazy!
Comment by frznagn | May 29, 2008
and this is the point where my stance as a moderate collapses
Dude, I’ve read the rest of your comments, and you’re a liberal, not a moderate. Sorry, but you’re trying to lend yourself credibility that you’re not due. Embrace your leftist streak, and quit trying to pass yourself off as something you’re not.
I hate to break it to you, John Edwards, but your “two Americas” analogy is fatally flawed. You assume that those who object to the federal government confiscating the fruits of their labor to fund lifestyles of poor choices and lethargy are “selfish.”
Maybe our problem is that we don’t like to have bloated and inefficient bureaucracies wasting the money that WE busted our humps to earn before having it forcefully removed from us. Maybe our problem is that we don’t for a stinking minute think that the Constitution (you know, the document that allegedly serves as the basis of law and government in this country?) authorizes the imperial federal government to be in the business of doling out handouts to anyone. Per the 10th Amendment, that’s up to the states to handle in any manner they see fit. The role of the federal government is to be limited, and the role of the states’ governments can be anemic, bloated, or somewhere in between.
Plus, as numerous studies show, those on the right tend to give lots of money to charities, which are much better equipped to efficiently handle problems than the imperial federal government is. Dude, I’ve spent numerous hours working with homeless shelters and foundations here in Jacksonville because I am compassionate to them, even though many (if not most…we’re not counting the mentally ill) of them made crappy decisions that put them and their kids on the streets. I don’t tell them “Tough! Sucks for you, pal!” But I also don’t rely on the federal government to steal from my fellow Americans to deal with the problem of homelessness. That’s up to my state, my city, my church, and the local charities who are helping. I gladly donate time and money to help.
So before you go talking out of your #ss (again, like nearly every other comment you’ve made thus far) about “evil, heartless, uncaring bastards” that don’t like their federal government to steal and waste money on inefficiency, why don’t you try…oh, I dunno…thinking instead of “feeling”, m’kay? Thanks in advance.
lastly, in response to that catch phrase “why think when you can feel?”, I think I’ll think AND feel, thank you.
I think I just decisively proved that you do NOT think…you “feel”. I’ve seen no proof of your ability to think.
Comment by crushliberalism | May 29, 2008
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it seems that your response is a little narrow in that you don’t object to giving money (and in your case, time) to the poor as something that isn’t worthwhile, you just don’t want to be forced into it. or rather that you’d be willing to be forced, just not by the fed. that’s understandable. but how many people don’t see it that way? this is why in this one instance (giving money to the poor) I would support the government intervening to make people do the right thing, because keep in mind: for every person who is poor because of there own stupidity, there’s one who’s poor for reasons beyond his control.
Comment by andrew | May 29, 2008
The people who are stuck by the “mortgage crissis” are those that got taken advantage of by loan brokers WHO LIED about their clients ability to afford the home. Those who got those loans KNEW FULL WELL that their financial situation was BEING LIED ABOUT. Both should pay for not following the rules NOT THOSE WHO DO FOLLOW THE RULES.
Comment by WMD_Maker | May 29, 2008
but how many people don’t see it that way?
I don’t give a shiite how many people do or don’t see it that way.
this is why in this one instance (giving money to the poor) I would support the government intervening to make people do the right thing
Let me ask you a sincere question: do you give a rat’s #ss what the Constitution says? Seriously?
You cannot say you support our constitutional republic when you blatantly disregard the parts of the Constitution that you don’t like, specifically the part that forbids the federal government from being as big and as bloated as it’s gotten. It is clearly unconstitutional for the federal government to be in the business of handing out money to the poor, and our Founding Fathers commented on that issue numerous times. It IS, however, perfectly constitutional for state and local governments, as well as charities, to deal with poverty in any manner they see fit.
Dude, I don’t like the grief that the poor (through choices of their own or not) suffer, but you can’t ignore the Constitution in order to solve the problem. The federal government that ignores parts of the Constitution that I like today may be ignoring parts of the Constitution that you like tomorrow. It’s a constitution, not a suggestion manual. It’s ironclad and set, not a living, breathing document. We have an amendment process that can be done should the times call for it (see sufferage, prohibition, equal protection, etc.) To suggest otherwise is “feeling”, and not thinking.
Comment by crushliberalism | May 29, 2008
I would support the government intervening to make people do the right thing…
Andrew, would you apply this same principle when it comes to abortion? Or do you think killing innocent children is the “right thing to do”?
for every person who is poor because of there own stupidity, there’s one who’s poor for reasons beyond his control
Maybe so, but that is exactly what charity is for. I’ll thank the government and socialist liberals like you to keep your hand the heck out of my wallet!!!
P.S. I always love it when libs throw around the word “evil”….AS IF any of you truly know what it means. You collectively embrace everything that truly IS evil and then climb up on your high horse and cast aspersions on those that oppose your ideas. I’m not sure if it’s pure ignorance or jusy hypocrisy.
Comment by Kanaka Girl | May 29, 2008
ok, if I don’t know what evil is, Tell Me. What is Evil? I have my own ideas (the bible has nothing to do with them), so what are yours?
Comment by andrew | May 29, 2008
Pretty much everything you liberals believe in is evil Andrew.
Comment by Kanaka Girl | May 30, 2008
typical conservative answer.
not to mention that I again see someone seeming to think that “the left” is some monolithic entity that agrees on everything. you don’t know anything about me, but since you place everything you call evil on the heads of liberals, all liberals are evil in your flawed logic
another example of conservatives putting feeling before reason.
Comment by andrew | May 31, 2008
another example of conservatives putting feeling before reason.
Project much, dipsh#t?
Comment by crushliberalism | May 31, 2008
meh, forgoing reason in favor of feeling is something that’s done on an individual basis. your logo saying that it’s only a liberal trait is nonsense.
Comment by andrew | May 31, 2008
but since you place everything you call evil on the heads of liberals, all liberals are evil in your flawed logic
a) I didn’t say all liberals are evil….I said what you stand for collectively is evil. (Abortion, gay marriage, economic slavery, removing God from society while promoting all things immoral…….need I go on?)
b) My logic is flawed? That’s just rich coming from you andrew. Aren’t you the one that called all conservatives evil, uncaring, heartless bastards? I’ll put my charitable contributions up against yours ANY DAY andrew.
Comment by Kanaka Girl | June 2, 2008
Im so sick and tired of seeing OBAMAS ugly mug everywhere i mean thier treating him like some freakin god or pharoh and im certianly not one of his subjects and never ever will be SCREW OBAMA I DONT WANT HIS CHANGE
Comment by Birdzilla | February 4, 2009