Do you not understand timelines andrew? I did call you unpatriotic AFTER pointing out that you were blaming someone else for calling you unpatriotic when in fact they hadn’t.

we are still endangering our troops every time we “torcher” an enemy, because it makes the enemy more likely to return the favor

andrew, the enemy we are dealing with here doesn’t operate on the same moral compass. A person who will strap a bomb to their own child is not someone you can reason with. These barbarians are going to torture our soldiers no matter what we do, so frankly, if torturing a TERRORIST obtains one iota of information that will save one innocent life, then in my opinion it’s worth it. And just for the record, I don’t consider what happened at Gitmo to be torture. Humiliation, yes. Intimidation, yes. Torture, no way.

second, and i’m sure y’all will hate this, I CARE if terrorists get “torchered” (even if it’s misspelled) because even if you have a “support the troops” bumper sticker, we are still endangering our troops every time we “torcher” an enemy, because it makes the enemy more likely to return the favor (this also relates to previous points I’ve made about America surrenduring it’s moral authority)

third, do I think there is no terrorist threat? Don’t be stupid. Do I think the threat was inflated for the benefit of the Bush adminisration’s power grab? No, I KNOW it was inflated to help them achieve greater executive power. so does anyone else who’s been paying attention, unless they’ve been hypnotized by fox news.

Andrew Andrew….where to start…. first of all, NO ONE called you “unpatriotic”. Why are all you liberals so freaking touchy about your patriotism? Perhaps because deep down you know you really have none and everyone knows it but you!
Second, I don’t think anyone here really cares if terrorists were “torchered” at Gitmo when said “torcher” consisted of putting undies on their heads and scaring them with big bad doggies. (is your spellcheck broken or are you still in first grade?)
Do you REALLY believe that there is no threat of a terrorist attack against our country? If so, you are a bigger idiot than your posts would indicate.
No one here said this country is perfect, but it’s the best country there is. If you’re too ignorant or blinded by liberal cr@p to recognize that fact, perhaps you should join Omarosa Obama on her one-way to Torabora.

either one, you’re saying we shouldn’t talk about (and possibly fix) the country’s problems, or two, you’re saying the nation is perfect.

you’re either blinded by pride, or you’re delutional enough to think there is such a thing as a perfect country. pick whichever you like.

by the way, I keep using the word “feel” because it is the conservatives who act on feeling over reason, not liberals.

“if you FEEL the country is perfect, it must be, right?”

Kindly show where anyone said that. I’ll wait.

(elevator music)

Found it yet? I’ll keep waiting.

(crickets chirping)

Non-liberals don’t suggest perfection. Conversely, liberals suggest they can deliver it, so long as they have full and unobstructed control. We all know how that turns out.

to be very specific about what she was talking about: the word fear was used to refer to the Bush tactic of warning us about Terrorists threats that didn’t exist. or maybe they did get real intel about it? maybe from the random babblings of torchered terrorists in Gitmo. and so he tells congress that if they don’t vote as he says, there’ll be a terrorist attack. and telling the voters to essentially “vote GOP or Osama will kill you”

to give the left it’s fair share: democrats (and voters for that matter) are pathetic for bowing to such warmongering predictions of doom and death for as long as they did.

Being of Polynesian ancestry, however, I do take issue with your suggestion to send Omarosa Obama to Bora Bora.

I say we send her back to Mother Africa. I’ll pitch in for the ticket. Hell, I’ll spring for the whole thing. The only caveat is that she has to stay there forever.

I wonder if Andrew would think that’s charitable enough…we are all greedy, heartless ba$tards after all….

One thing you have to give Shelly is that she has been totally consistent in her public comments. She has not wavered one bit. Despite a nice, cushy upbringing and an even nicer, cushier adult life, she really, really, really hates it here. Perhaps she could do herself (and everyone else) a favor and move to Bora Bora.

Juan McCaindez keeps getting closer to the WH with every utterance.