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2. Ain’t feminism grand?

   Nope!

   Comment by Kanaka Girl | September 2, 2008

3. Honey,

   Hypocrisy makes the world go round. Look at all the people that skewered (can’t believe I’m going to say this) Jamie Lynn Spears and her mom for the exact circumstances – rightfully so, I might add. When an inner city teen gets pregnant, they say “great another welfare for life child”. Now these same people are saying “Good for Bristol!” Huh?

   FWIW, if the election were tomorrow I’d still vote for McCain/Palin. She’s very interesting and frankly, I would love to look like her. Ooops! Does that make me sexist?

   Comment by Alli | September 2, 2008

4. Ooops! Does that make me sexist?

   Nah! Only white hetero males can be sexist!

   Comment by crushliberalism | September 2, 2008

5. Alli, I don’t think anyone is saying “good for Bristol”, but I don’t think you can draw the parallel between the Palin family and the Spears family. At least Bristol has plans to marry the father and she comes from a solid family. Can’t say the same for poor Jamie Lynn Spears.

   Also, the hypocrisy of the Democrats in attacking the children of a candidate; attacking Palin for having the audacity to not abort her Down syndrome child; attacking Palin for working while she has a Down syndrome child; and attacking Palin for not having enough “experience” when she clearly has much more experience than their Presidential candidate is just appalling.
   I think we all learned a long time ago that the Democrats are not the party of women — they’re the party of Liberal women.

   Comment by Kanaka Girl | September 2, 2008

6. Hey Kanaka Girl,

   You’re right about Jamie Lynn not coming from a solid family, but she did say she was going to marry the father and I believe they’re engaged (sorry, ashamed to admit I can’t resist People magazine once in a while.) We’re still not sure if Bristol will go through with marriage. I’m sure you’ll disagree with me, but I don’t think a teenager should marry someone just because they’re pregnant. She’s going to have a hard enough time being a mother without full understanding of who she is and finishing her education. Being a newlywed to someone you might never have married in the first place is not going to make things easier for her or the baby.

   Forgive me for hijacking this post…and you’re going to hate what I have to say, but teen pregnancy is a huge pet peeve of mine. As a teacher, I saw it all too often and even saw it in my own family. And I can honestly say that each teenager who got pregnant either had too much time on their hands and/or lack of supervision. Several even wanted to get pregnant to fill some gap in their lives (lack of love and attention are big). I’m not saying this is the case of Bristol, but having a mother with a high powered job, a just as busy stay at home dad, and permission to stay out of school for five months because of mono makes me wonder if her parents were on top of this. BTW, I really do think they are good parents and this won’t reflect on how Sara Palin performs professionally.

   The attacks regarding Baby Trig were horrendous and if people honestly think Palin put in a full day at work three days post-partem without that baby near her, then they are stupid. I comfort myself knowing they are extremists and just as relevant as James Dobson is….probably even less relevant than Dobson to be honest.

   I know this family deserves privacy. But I think teen pregnancy needs to be addressed. When Tom Brady was about to be a dad, I remember a conservative woman saying “this happens, but I worry for the young girls who will see this man with unlimited resources and think it’s an easy situation.” I agree with her and I believe this can be the case with Bristol too.

   And now, I will courageously click the submit button.

   Comment by Alli | September 2, 2008

7. Michelle is spot on.

   I think Palin was a brilliant choice, even if she’s just a token to bring out the hate of the democrats.

   Comment by Jenn | September 2, 2008

8. Alli,

   Are you a parent? If so, do you feel 100% that as your children approach adulthood they’ll never ever make a mistake?

   Comment by Jenn | September 2, 2008

9. Hi Jenn,

   Yes, I have three kids. They are all under eight and they’ve made tons of mistakes already! I’m 100% sure at least one will have sex before they turn 18 and that none will wait until they’re married. I believe in teaching abstinence but not abstinence only.

   However when it comes to teenage girls, I’m Ok with overprotective dads behaving like Gen. Patton. While my father trusted me, he still felt the need to show my date his gun license, knife collection, and old football trophies….after interrogating the lucky young man of course.

   Comment by Alli | September 2, 2008

10. Alli,

    So you feel that birth control can be accomplished by brandishing weapons at any would-be suitors?

    I’m not convinced there is a one-size-fits all policy for parents to prevent teenage pregnancy. I think it’s a little judgemental to speculate that this 17 year old got pregnant due to poor parenting abilities.

    As a parent, control is but an illusion that passes each year your child ages. All you can really do is put forth your best effort knowing that you are preparing them to make their own decisions (and own mistakes.)

    Your father’s way would make most teens just sneak/lie out of the house or never make formal introductions.

    Comment by Jenn | September 2, 2008

11. Jenn,

    I’m trying very hard not to judge the parenting abilities, but it’s hard. I think a lot of parents are soft today when it comes to giving kids what they want and for some reason the five months out of school for mono adds to my “who’s running the show” question. BTW I did slightly exaggerate my dad’s way, but you got the picture and I didn’t sneak out of the house – too scared to.

    You’re right that there is no one size fits all policy to prevent teens from pregnancy. But you do whatever it takes. Information and education, morality, and a little parental fear can go a long way.

    Excellent and very true second to last paragraph.

    Comment by Alli | September 2, 2008

12. So you feel that birth control can be accomplished by brandishing weapons at any would-be suitors?

    Well, speaking only for myself…yep!

    If I had shown up to Alli’s door to take her on a date, and her old man was cleaning his Bowie knife and semi-automatic rifle collection, then I guaran-freakin’-tee you I wouldn’t be showing up for a second date!

    Your father’s way would make most teens just sneak/lie out of the house or never make formal introductions.

    Her dad’s way would have made a teenage Crush Liberalism avoid a teenage Alli like Ted Kennedrunk avoids a Kopechne family reunion!

    Comment by crushliberalism | September 2, 2008

13. “Her dad’s way would have made a teenage Crush Liberalism avoid a teenage Alli like Ted Kennedrunk avoids a Kopechne family reunion!”

    Now that’s funny I don’t care who you are!
    Jenn you and Alli both make great points. And I must say I like Alli’s dad too!

    Comment by tnjack | September 2, 2008

14. Her dad’s way would have made a teenage Crush Liberalism avoid a teenage Alli like Ted Kennedrunk avoids a Kopechne family reunion!

    Crush, Crush, Crush… have you forgotten about the intensity and the desperation of young love?!?! Had you been in love with Alli at the time, you might have ignored those warning signs.

    Besides, what sort of headline would this have been?:

    “Governor’s husband threatens young man picking up his daughter for the prom with a knife.”

    And yes tnjack, it is funny

    Comment by Jenn | September 2, 2008

15. Oooh! Now if I were dating a guy named “Crush” in high school, I might risk Dad’s wrath. But would have been responsible and protected of course.

    Comment by Alli | September 2, 2008

16. “Had you been in love with Alli at the time, you might have ignored those warning signs.”

    That should read “in HEAT with Alli”

    Comment by WMD_Maker | September 2, 2008

17. Alli… see?! see?! I’m just sayin’ sometimes biology is a force that cannot be stopped by any means!

    And WMD, yes, that it as accurate re-phrase. Many a (young) man gets himself into trouble while pursuing, eh, happiness.

    Comment by Jenn | September 2, 2008

18. I actually just read that Bristol’s baby daddy is on his way to the Republican Convention. Now having to attend a political convention is pretty good birth control if you ask me!

    Comment by Alli | September 2, 2008

19. Besides, what sort of headline would this have been?

    I would say a NYT headline!

    Comment by crushliberalism | September 2, 2008

20. We can debate teenage lust, birth control and parental supervision all day long… but the bottom line is minor children of politicians are off limits. The Dems have no honor. They went after the Bush daughters, and now they’re going after Palin’s children. It’s disgusting.

    Comment by Kanaka Girl | September 3, 2008

21. I agree KG that children of politicians should be off-limits. I mean look at how the republicans did not go after Chelsea Clinton because she was so ugly!

    Comment by tnjack | September 3, 2008

22. look at how the republicans did not go after Chelsea Clinton because she was so ugly!

    Exactly!

    Comment by Kanaka Girl | September 3, 2008

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