Debate recap
Thoughts from the debate:
- McCain won. Everyone saw that.
- Notice that while McCain used the respectful “Senator Obama”, Obama frequently referred to his opponent as “John” rather than the more respectful “Senator McCain”?
- While McCain interrupted a time or two, The One interrupted much more frequently. All that was left, I suppose, was for O to “get in his face”!
- McCain got a slam dunk when he challenged Barry O on Afghanistan: If you think Afghanistan is so darned important, why have you never visited there? O responded with “um” and “uh” and then some blithering nonsense.
- Obama got annoyed and flustered frequently, and it showed. He lost his cool a number of times, and he played on defense most of the time. I thought McCain was supposed to be the one with the temper? If true, he didn’t show it.
- When McCain challenged Obama on his “meet the dictators with no preconditions” lunacy, O lied about it and said that Kissinger supported the idea. Kissinger says that’s ludicrous: he never said such a thing.
- McCain didn’t do everything right, of course. He stayed on the “I’ve been bipartisan” and “I’ve fought pork and will cut wasteful spending” line way too long. I cringed when he talked about “climate change”.
- McCain missed a golden opportunity when Lehrer asked them “With the $700 billion bailout, what spending priorities will you have to forego?” Big O responded that depending on revenues, he wouldn’t be able to pay for everything he wanted…and then he rattled off a laundry list of stuff he’d pay for, including…broadband lines? McCain should have said “Well, gosh, Jim! You asked us what we would cut, and he just basically told you ‘Nothing. In fact, I’m spending more!’” That would have really illustrated what a tax-and-spend liberal Obama truly is.
- The biggest gaffe was Obama’s true, heartfelt support for the troops. It’s so gosh darn real that he…uh…forgot the name of the soldier on his bracelet and had to look down to be reminded of it! Team Mac, run with this on commercials, dude!
All in all, The One got his clock royally cleaned tonight. Of course, one debate does not an election make. Bush fared poorly in his first debate against Gore and his first against Kerry, yet he still won the elections (memo to moonbats: yes, he really did win!). I’m interested to see how the remaining debates go.
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I agree. Evertime McCain pressed Obama he started to get angry. What about the great speaker Obama is supposed to be uhhhh,welll,huh. I thought it was a great debate for McCain and hopefully some people were watching.
Comment by chris | September 27, 2008
Crush I agree that McCain was the overall winner. I too think he could have jumped on some of Hussein’s ramblings. I did however watch afterward for the comments in the “spin room” at Ol Miss. There was this one black lady with her toddler on her lap come out with a summary of the reason most of my black co-workers will vote for Osama. She said , “I know Obama won and I didn’t care what he said I’m going to vote for him anyway.”
I asked a co-worker what she thimks her Obama button (she wears on her uniform each day) means. The button has a picture of BHO and a caption which says……Yes We Can… She thought for several moments and said, “It means yes we can vote for him!” I didn’t see the need to ask her anymore questions.
Good points Crush.
Comment by tnjack | September 27, 2008
tnjack -
Good not to waste any more time on your co-worker.
We all know BHO has the single digit IQ votes locked up.
Comment by The Truth Hurts | September 27, 2008
Did McCain win? On substance, yes. On calling out fabrications from Obama? No way. He let a whole bunch of inaccuracies (lies) slip right by him. Also, it seems someone was working with Barry on reducing his ums and ahs off the teleprompter. I was expecting him to do it quite a bit more. But here was McCain’s biggest mistake in my opinion: Barry put a number to the “rich”. $250,000 and up are the ones he intends to soak with taxes. That’s nearly every American “S” corporation, i.e. small business. Bye-bye to those small company jobs. Bye-bye to every entrepreneur who started their companies in the past eight years. McCain completely let that slide, and this was a slam-dunk handed to him on a silver platter.
Comment by TheBad | September 27, 2008
The Bad is right (hah sounds funny). While McCain was superb on foreign policy, he should have called out Obama on some of the economic crap he was spewing. This allowed Obama to look smooth and sensible while McCain was bumbling and stuck on “spending” and “earmarks”. There’s nothing wrong with mentioning those two things, but it seemed like that’s all he was saying.
Overall, I think McCain edged out Obama. But in the long run, Obama may have capitalized because got past the foreign policy debate. I hope not, but…
Comment by Alli | September 27, 2008
What bothered me was all the snide looks Obama gave McCain. No respect. And CNN came out with a poll that says Obama won. They had more Independents than Republicans too! They can’t even, or don’t try, to get a representative sample of the public. Check out CNN’s site or catch the highlights that I posted: http://frznagn.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/polls/
Comment by frznagn | September 27, 2008
Here is another example. McCain didn’t challenge him at all on this, and most certainly should have. I recall him saying to the people that they should look up the details on this or that. You can’t leave it to the electorate to research your opponent – you have to call him out on it.
Comment by TheBad | September 27, 2008
How ’bout that great and enviable infrastructure in China, huh? The envy of America!
Comment by david drake | September 27, 2008
We can talk about McCain winning on the issues, I agree with all of you on that. Unfortunately that’s really not the issue. In terms of the election, Barack Obama won last night. The polls show it, and that’s all that really matters. It was a victory for McCain only insofar as he didn’t get decimated by a much more talented performer. McCain cannot hope to win this election in the debates. Uphill battle would be an understatement.
Like I said, McCain has Obama on the issues 110% of the time. But Barack relies on the mistakes of the Bush administration, he relies on an economic crisis, he relies on his own lies about issues like tax policy, he relies on generalities and accusatory gripes, and he relies on the American public’s general pessimism when it comes to the war on terror, the housing market, the job market, and gas prices. It’s the only way he can win. Personally I’m terrified of a Barack Obama presidency.
Comment by theNimrod | September 28, 2008
I thought the debate was a draw. Debates have more to do with appearance and post debate MSM perceptions than actual content of who won which arguments. In this sense, this is my observation.
I of course agreed with McCain on almost every point, but his responses were the same rehashed lines he has said on the trail for the past three months. If I hear the line about “Ms. Congeniality” or “With this Pen” again I’m going to scream. His inability to use specific numbers on the economy made him look older and mentally feeble. McCain looked better on the foreign policy discussions, but his stumbling early with the economy questions left a bad first impression that was not changed by the strong ending. I thought Barak didn’t look good as well. Is it just me or was the Obamasamma getting coaching from the audience. He kept looking away and mouthing words to somebody. This made him look like more like a puppet for the left and to me continues the impression he has no original ideas. Obama scored points early on by using unsubstantiated numbers as far as McCain’s $$ of spending cuts vs. Tax cuts. This left a perception that McCain conceding that Obama statements as true. Let’s not even go to the Kissinger inaccuracy.
On substance McCain won. However that is really not the case with Presidential Debates. Perception matters more. As far as perception is concerned it’s a draw. Spin matters more than content. In the end, the MSM of course spins this as a Obama victory, and McCain did nothing during the debate as far as appearance and perception to make the MSM look wrong.
Comment by Steve | September 28, 2008
Crush said: “Notice that while McCain used the respectful “Senator Obama”, Obama frequently referred to his opponent as “John” rather than the more respectful “Senator McCain”?”
I noticed that. I also noticed that Obama couldn’t even get that correct a few times.
Crush said: “While McCain interrupted a time or two, The One interrupted much more frequently. All that was left, I suppose, was for O to “get in his face”!”
Jim Lehr also managed interrupt McCain more than once. I don’t recall him doing that to the One.
I’m looking forward to Palin vs. Biden.
Comment by Double D | September 28, 2008