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1. Guys, I understand that on face value this does appear to be a double standard despite one effigy taking place on private property versus public property. However, remember there have been previous threats to this particular presidential candidates life. One of those threats came by way of a loose plot to assasinate both him and children. Another was at a rally where the crowd cheered that he be killed. Now regardless of our political inclinations, I happen to be conservative, we do have to take these analogies of death seriously at some point. We don’t want America’s name defamed by some band of idiots who think that this represents conservative/republican beliefs.

   Comment by Rationalist | October 31, 2008

2. There is a big difference between the two “hangings.” They both were in poor taste, but the Kentucky college kids, according to the articles and blogs I’ve read, are admitted racists and were proud of their so-called accomplishment. There Obama effigy had nothing to do with Halloween, as the Sarah Palin effigy was done by a private homeowner for Halloween. I’m not justifying either, but doing it as a Halloween prank and doing it to stir hate on a college campus with several African Americans is diffferent, in my opinion.

   Comment by Kentucky Rose | October 31, 2008

3. Here’s a question for you: Who was the last white person to be hanged by black people?? Don’t worry, I’ll wait

   Comment by Rick | October 31, 2008

4. I think there is a difference in my humble opinion. At no point in our American history were White women being hung from trees in California; however in many parts of the south including Kentucky the hanging of African Americans was standard practice. The image of a black man hanging from a tree (although in jest) spurns racial tensions and fear.

   Comment by Tim | October 31, 2008

5. As a Clinton-voting Democrat who’s views are more in line with Ron Paul, I agree whole heartedly with you about the double standard. You could make the argument about history and lynchings and tree-hangings, but still. With regards to the arrests in the Obama effigy, they were made for burglary nad “disorderly conduct”, whatever that means.

   Unfortunately, we live in a place and time where lines or race are more divisive than lines of gender. Therein lies the problem. Both sides like to call the other racist or sexist, and the truth is, both sides are guilty at times. There are double standards across the board on both wings, but the left doesn’t get called on them as much.

   Comment by Amp | October 31, 2008

6. Let me first say I disagree with the hanging of either effigy. However, the difference between these two cases is where the display took place. In the first case it was placed on private property, in the second it was placed on University of Kentucky grounds. The people as a collection determine their standards of decency for public areas whereas on private land the standards are lower.

   Comment by Georgia Dem | October 31, 2008

7. Well I guess college students aren’t that bright after all. The two guys in California had the sense to do it on their own property. What on Earth possessed these two jokes for college students to do it on the college campus. Doing it on the college campus is what got them in trouble.

   Comment by Dan Smith | October 31, 2008

8. I agree that both displays are dispicable, and when people think about doing either for whatever reasons, they should think again. Having said that, it’s obvious the fact that the college students hung their effigy on school properity left them wide open for prosecution. The people who hung up the Sarah Palin effigy, hung it off their house. Being a black female, I was affended by both. I find it ironic how people who never have to deal with racial anomimosity on a regular basis, always try to make it seem like people who are affended by racism are over-reacting. It’s all offensive, just leave it at that.

   Comment by GINA | October 31, 2008

9. Hanging an effigy no matter who it is is wrong. But the feelings behind hanging African American men from a tree still has not been fully dealt with. The issue is not about a double standard, its about the reaction it evokes.

   In the name of fairness, no one should have this happen to them.

   Comment by Robert | October 31, 2008

10. so once again its all about blacks and not about anyone else? so its not about race… RIGHT… tell that to the 2 that got arrested for what they did and oh yea the other 2 say it was art??? art my ass, the same laws should apply to them as do the others… its truly a sad state of affairs…

    Comment by sandman | October 31, 2008

11. if these 2 guys got arrested for this , those 2 queers in California should also! This is sooooo typical!!

    Comment by rob casler | October 31, 2008

12. Thank you, all, for your comments. I understand perfectly well that there is a sordid history in this country of blacks being hung for no other reason than being black. I think we all agree that was always, and is always, despicable, vile, and a gross violation of God’s commandments.

    However, to those who would say that because the Obama effigy was hung on a college campus it was a crime, I would ask two questions:

    1. So First Amendment rights cease to exist on college campuses? Public property?

    2. Do you honestly, sincerely, and genuinely believe that if a Sarah Palin effigy had been hung on a college campus, the reaction would have been “Oh, no! That happened on a college campus, so we won’t stand for it!”? I don’t believe that for a second. I think it’s clear that the liberal academics would have parroted the Hollywood gang’s line that “This is a First Amendment issue!”

    For the record, I think that both groups who did this are depraved…and that both should be free to freely express their depraved views. This is obviously a double standard…period.

    Comment by crushliberalism | October 31, 2008

13. Contrary to belief, hanging of white women has happened (note – Salem witch trials.)

    Both incidents reflect poor taste, hatred, and a lot of other things that the public despises in people. Both cases should be considered free speech, and there is a clear double standard.

    The effigy on the school campus should result in punishment by the campus, but should not involve the police throwing what ever they can possibly throw at the pair.

    Their idiots, but it’s free speech.

    Comment by Kevin | October 31, 2008

14. Okay I agree it is double standard. But we must admit, Obama’s effigy was pure hatred. I truly thought this racism behavior in our country was over. The things my grandparents and parents had to go through was a thing of the past. But this election has proven me wrong. Hatred has shown its ugly head. My point is; Yeas the hangings was both distastful and disrespectful.However, Senator Obamas has open a can of worms. What I mean is it has brought back memories and negative emotions. When my people were fighting back in the days just for equal human rights. Just to be called a Man not a boy, a Woman, not a gal. To be able to vote and to be able to raise your children with a since of self-respect. We were hung, beaten,raped, burned, and whip like we were animals inferior beings to keep us in a slave frame of mind. To overshawdow us with fear and discouragement. But, the thing is we were never inferior and although in that time society would have wanted us to beleive that. By hanging the effigy brought those feelings back. But just like our relatives in that era had to remind themselves. This is a small thing AND IT WILL NOT STOP THE INEVITABLE. A CHANGE WILL COME. IT JUST MAKE US STRONGER

    Comment by 1proudblackwoman | October 31, 2008

15. As a Christian who just happens to be a woman and African-American, I am far prouder (as my husband is, also) to be going against “my people” to vote for John McCain and Governor Palin! It’s so easy to be racist when “you in de hood, dawg.” And it’s easy to become lazy, mentally and spiritually and physically. I get so SICK to my stomach of the Jesse Jackson, AlSharpton, Barack Obama RACISM that has caused so many of my fellow citizens to show such PURE HATRED towards Governor Palin.

    We own two very small family businesses. We worked for 100% of what we have, although (both) mour parents, my husband’s and mine, tend to want government to provide for everything. That’s not who we are! We are proudly Black, and we are proudly FREE to vote for whoever represents our American way of life better. There is no doubt in my mind that’s John McCain and Sarah Palin.

    I have never seen such a socialist liberal running for president who had so little to show for himself besides anti-life, socialist voting record and liberals, terrorists, and Hollywood stars supporting him. Oh yes, and lockstep-liberal Blacks, too. Well, not in OUR house. We have three college degrees and two businesses, and we can smell a disaster with B.O.!

    Fellow African-American citizen, please think before you vote. You’re off the Jesse Jackson-Barack Obama plantation now.

    Comment by AnotherProudBlackWoman | October 31, 2008

16. Thank you for your comment, Another.

    Comment by crushliberalism | October 31, 2008

17. “But we must admit, Obama’s effigy was pure hatred.”

    As was the Palin effigy. Hatred knows no color. I do not condone this sort of display of hatred. It is fully counterproductive. However, I do believe it falls under the umbrella of free speech. I find the decision to make no arrests in the Palin case proper and the decision to make arrests in the Obama case despicable. Yet, not nearly as despicable as the way in which these Americans decided to use their precious free speech rights.

    Comment by TheBad | October 31, 2008

18. I have to say the black sensitivity to nooses and lynching is completely understandable. People should have better things to do than making dummies of political figures when most are already dummies by themselves. But I’d also say there was some broadside hatred going on with that California effigy of Palin, too. Reminds me a bit of another hanging, one where a murdered Blackwater employee was hung from a bridge in Falluja and a certain liberal commentator said “screw ‘em”.

    Comment by A.C. McCloud | October 31, 2008

19. AnotherProudBlackWoman:

    Would you and your family please move to Memphis? we need you here.

    Comment by The Truth Hurts | November 1, 2008

20. TTH……….AMEN!

    Comment by tnjack | November 3, 2008

21. Okay then is it okay if we hang a effegee of ERIC HOLDER?

    Comment by SPURWING PLOVER | April 9, 2011

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