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		<title>By: SPURWING PLOVER</title>
		<link>http://crushliberalism.com/2008/11/10/obama-bound-to-destroy-american-auto-industry/#comment-16009</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SPURWING PLOVER]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And yet like mindless zombies the union workers always blindly support the demacrats in every elections]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet like mindless zombies the union workers always blindly support the demacrats in every elections</p>
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		<title>By: PabloD</title>
		<link>http://crushliberalism.com/2008/11/10/obama-bound-to-destroy-american-auto-industry/#comment-10392</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PabloD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marla - sad but true. We have given people incentives to be lazy moochers, while people who follow the rules and have enough pride to work hard get stuck paying the bills for the moochers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marla &#8211; sad but true. We have given people incentives to be lazy moochers, while people who follow the rules and have enough pride to work hard get stuck paying the bills for the moochers.</p>
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		<title>By: Kanaka Girl</title>
		<link>http://crushliberalism.com/2008/11/10/obama-bound-to-destroy-american-auto-industry/#comment-10385</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kanaka Girl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The auto industry bailout is just the tip of the iceberg.  Obama and the Dems sold their collective souls to the unions to get elected...and now they&#039;re going to make the taxpayers pay the price of the payback.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The auto industry bailout is just the tip of the iceberg.  Obama and the Dems sold their collective souls to the unions to get elected&#8230;and now they&#8217;re going to make the taxpayers pay the price of the payback.</p>
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		<title>By: WMD_Maker</title>
		<link>http://crushliberalism.com/2008/11/10/obama-bound-to-destroy-american-auto-industry/#comment-10381</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WMD_Maker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Such is life when you marry the gainfully employed father of your children.&quot;

Thats LEGAL in Michigan?!?!??!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Such is life when you marry the gainfully employed father of your children.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thats LEGAL in Michigan?!?!??!</p>
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		<title>By: Marla</title>
		<link>http://crushliberalism.com/2008/11/10/obama-bound-to-destroy-american-auto-industry/#comment-10379</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WMD I think you&#039;ll find that kind of manipulation wherever you find generous benefits packages.

I used to work with single mother victims who carefully plotted out losing their bonus/incentive pay in order to keep their entitlement benefits. They were more than capable, in fact, these ladies should have jobs in accounting firms. $50-$75 per week in extra pay for performing well on the job &lt; several hundred per month in food assistance, rent assistance, utility assistance, free lunch, medical/dental/vision coverage... also in Michigan, there are programs to purchase a car, repair your car, and get free car insurance. And while earning that extra would entitle them to receive child support payments, well, if your baby daddys don&#039;t pay anyway, it&#039;s a duh equation. I think this employer purposely kept the pay structure with these bonuses in place just to keep a solid turnover of warm bodies employed.

It&#039;s not as though I feel this was the right thing to do, in their cases, they would have been foolish to take such a loss. I felt like a sucker during my employment there, putting in that extra effort for the extra pay, and I&#039;ll pay again when tax time rolls round. Such is life when you marry the gainfully employed father of your children.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WMD I think you&#8217;ll find that kind of manipulation wherever you find generous benefits packages.</p>
<p>I used to work with single mother victims who carefully plotted out losing their bonus/incentive pay in order to keep their entitlement benefits. They were more than capable, in fact, these ladies should have jobs in accounting firms. $50-$75 per week in extra pay for performing well on the job &lt; several hundred per month in food assistance, rent assistance, utility assistance, free lunch, medical/dental/vision coverage&#8230; also in Michigan, there are programs to purchase a car, repair your car, and get free car insurance. And while earning that extra would entitle them to receive child support payments, well, if your baby daddys don&#8217;t pay anyway, it&#8217;s a duh equation. I think this employer purposely kept the pay structure with these bonuses in place just to keep a solid turnover of warm bodies employed.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not as though I feel this was the right thing to do, in their cases, they would have been foolish to take such a loss. I felt like a sucker during my employment there, putting in that extra effort for the extra pay, and I&#8217;ll pay again when tax time rolls round. Such is life when you marry the gainfully employed father of your children.</p>
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		<title>By: WMD_Maker</title>
		<link>http://crushliberalism.com/2008/11/10/obama-bound-to-destroy-american-auto-industry/#comment-10378</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WMD_Maker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve worked in the Detroit area off and on since the 80s. It is the only place where I ran into peole who had good paying jobs but were only working so they could get unemployment for 6 mos.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve worked in the Detroit area off and on since the 80s. It is the only place where I ran into peole who had good paying jobs but were only working so they could get unemployment for 6 mos.</p>
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		<title>By: Marla</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand that WMD. I was speaking about Detroit the city, as referenced in the original post. 

I know there is little direct production and assembly in this area. Much of this area is still highly dependent on parts and components manufacturing, and automotive industry support business, however. The eastern side of Michigan is not economically diverse enough to take another hit. The metro Detroit area generally determines the election result in this state due to the population size. It is ironic that an area so dependent on a single industry would vote in a way that would make their own situation even worse. Or maybe it&#039;s not ironic at all, maybe it&#039;s just proof that socialism in the form of entitlements means that the given majority in an area can freely vote on idealism and not reality because they don&#039;t have to worry about feeding themselves.

BTW, metro Detroit has had record population growth in recent times, opposite of a national trend. Seems that when people don&#039;t have to busy themselves with jobs and work, they have plenty of time to procreate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that WMD. I was speaking about Detroit the city, as referenced in the original post. </p>
<p>I know there is little direct production and assembly in this area. Much of this area is still highly dependent on parts and components manufacturing, and automotive industry support business, however. The eastern side of Michigan is not economically diverse enough to take another hit. The metro Detroit area generally determines the election result in this state due to the population size. It is ironic that an area so dependent on a single industry would vote in a way that would make their own situation even worse. Or maybe it&#8217;s not ironic at all, maybe it&#8217;s just proof that socialism in the form of entitlements means that the given majority in an area can freely vote on idealism and not reality because they don&#8217;t have to worry about feeding themselves.</p>
<p>BTW, metro Detroit has had record population growth in recent times, opposite of a national trend. Seems that when people don&#8217;t have to busy themselves with jobs and work, they have plenty of time to procreate.</p>
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		<title>By: WMD_Maker</title>
		<link>http://crushliberalism.com/2008/11/10/obama-bound-to-destroy-american-auto-industry/#comment-10372</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WMD_Maker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Marle Detroit is just a euphamism for the auto industry. A very small percentage of cars are made there anymore. I think you would find that more cars are made in Ohio, Texas and Cal than Michigan. True the exec offices are still there but that is because the office workers ARENT UNION. Detroit the city has been nothing more than a black hole since the late 60s. I saw where in the late 90s Detroit was the number one city for revegitation among the major cities. I guess the carbon from burnt buildings really helps the siol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marle Detroit is just a euphamism for the auto industry. A very small percentage of cars are made there anymore. I think you would find that more cars are made in Ohio, Texas and Cal than Michigan. True the exec offices are still there but that is because the office workers ARENT UNION. Detroit the city has been nothing more than a black hole since the late 60s. I saw where in the late 90s Detroit was the number one city for revegitation among the major cities. I guess the carbon from burnt buildings really helps the siol.</p>
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		<title>By: Marla</title>
		<link>http://crushliberalism.com/2008/11/10/obama-bound-to-destroy-american-auto-industry/#comment-10368</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has anyone here been through downtown Detroit lately? I have. It&#039;s a graffiti covered, burned down, boarded-up wasteland. Buildings are full of bullet holes. Trash litters the roads and freeways. Churches now have to employ security guards to make sure their ornaments aren&#039;t stolen for the copper content. On election night, at 11 pm when Obama was announced as the new president elect, the city was lit up with a firestorm of bullets in celebration.

I don&#039;t think many there really care about the environment. 

I heard a rumor that in one plant they were tarping off sections of the building to cut down on heating costs. When it comes to this, I think we&#039;re all screwed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone here been through downtown Detroit lately? I have. It&#8217;s a graffiti covered, burned down, boarded-up wasteland. Buildings are full of bullet holes. Trash litters the roads and freeways. Churches now have to employ security guards to make sure their ornaments aren&#8217;t stolen for the copper content. On election night, at 11 pm when Obama was announced as the new president elect, the city was lit up with a firestorm of bullets in celebration.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think many there really care about the environment. </p>
<p>I heard a rumor that in one plant they were tarping off sections of the building to cut down on heating costs. When it comes to this, I think we&#8217;re all screwed.</p>
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		<title>By: WMD_Maker</title>
		<link>http://crushliberalism.com/2008/11/10/obama-bound-to-destroy-american-auto-industry/#comment-10366</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WMD_Maker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with horses is that if you are not using them they still cost you in upkeep. Also the road apples are a MAJOR problem. Before the widespread use of the car NYC had a very big problem with what to do with all the crap, same problem as today just a different source.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with horses is that if you are not using them they still cost you in upkeep. Also the road apples are a MAJOR problem. Before the widespread use of the car NYC had a very big problem with what to do with all the crap, same problem as today just a different source.</p>
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		<title>By: dtmf</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dtmf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s true PabloD.. just keep plenty of salt on hand just in case. ;)
When you get bored:
http://dtmf.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/november-10th-2008-stealth-strategy-to-steal-your-guns/
The next 4 years is not going to look so well for us..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s true PabloD.. just keep plenty of salt on hand just in case. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
When you get bored:<br />
<a href="http://dtmf.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/november-10th-2008-stealth-strategy-to-steal-your-guns/" rel="nofollow">http://dtmf.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/november-10th-2008-stealth-strategy-to-steal-your-guns/</a><br />
The next 4 years is not going to look so well for us..</p>
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		<title>By: PabloD</title>
		<link>http://crushliberalism.com/2008/11/10/obama-bound-to-destroy-american-auto-industry/#comment-10363</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PabloD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dtmf - not a bad idea.  I&#039;ve never been too fond of horses, but they did serve as reliable transportation for hundreds of years.  And they&#039;re a lot easier to eat than a car, if things get really bad :-P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dtmf &#8211; not a bad idea.  I&#8217;ve never been too fond of horses, but they did serve as reliable transportation for hundreds of years.  And they&#8217;re a lot easier to eat than a car, if things get really bad <img src='http://s2.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dtmf</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dtmf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Add Pelosi and Reed to the killing of Detroit.
I hear the price of horses is starting to go down, may invest in one before too long.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add Pelosi and Reed to the killing of Detroit.<br />
I hear the price of horses is starting to go down, may invest in one before too long.</p>
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		<title>By: WMD_Maker</title>
		<link>http://crushliberalism.com/2008/11/10/obama-bound-to-destroy-american-auto-industry/#comment-10360</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WMD_Maker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Detroit doesnt need ballsack&#039;s help running the industry into the ground. GM doesnt seem to be able to build a car Americans will buy, Ford cant seem to design one so they go back to the 60s to rehash them. Chrysler cant seem to build one that lasts thru the warrantee. GM try building a car with a back seat an adult can sit in the back seat for at least an hour and still get out of at the end of that hour. Ford try bringing some of the stuff you make in europe here. Chrysler stop competeing with yourself by making vehicles for dodge that compete directly with 3 vehicles that jeep makes. Jeep stop making 3 vehicles that are off the same platform but have different bodies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Detroit doesnt need ballsack&#8217;s help running the industry into the ground. GM doesnt seem to be able to build a car Americans will buy, Ford cant seem to design one so they go back to the 60s to rehash them. Chrysler cant seem to build one that lasts thru the warrantee. GM try building a car with a back seat an adult can sit in the back seat for at least an hour and still get out of at the end of that hour. Ford try bringing some of the stuff you make in europe here. Chrysler stop competeing with yourself by making vehicles for dodge that compete directly with 3 vehicles that jeep makes. Jeep stop making 3 vehicles that are off the same platform but have different bodies.</p>
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